donald trump. new york deals with falsifying business record with falsifying business record with those hush money payments to the bolster stormy daniels and that he was indicted in florida of the messam link classified documents and now he's been charged in two separate cases. the —— over classified documents. this deals with three specific charges and it only target donald trump. it is built for speed, to go quickly, to try to get this wrapped up before the 2024 campaign is over. whereas this georgian case with so many people charged looks to tell the whole story of how trump and his allies attempted to obtain the election and how those efforts went from legal efforts, as they started with with a 60 court cases and then morphed into a legal efforts in the view of the prosecutor and actually became racketeering conspiracy and a criminal enterprise and that is going to be the case that prosecutors have to make to the jury, that this was notjust a good—faith effort to fight the election result, that

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[applause] [chanting] >> trump, trump, trump! reporter: president trump, in georgia -- president trump. in georgia, do you defendant stand by the actions of your allies in georgia after the 2020 election? in georgia, do you defend the actions of your allies following the 2020 election in georgia? former pres. trump: to be honest, we had so many allies [indiscernible] right now, our nation is going down. our nation is going to hell. we have a lot of allies that i don't know but they are allies none of -- nonetheless. i can tell you one thing. there's a lot of shenanigans going on with the election. whether you look at fuel [indiscernible] whether you look at twitter and the fbi and the doj. take a look at what happened to the doj, what happened with twitter. a lot of bad things took place during that election. we all have allies. i was winning by more than 50 points because people believe in us. we want to make america great again. reporter: have you spoken to ila governor kim reynolds? [indiscernible] former pres. trump: [indisce

there are a few. trump supporters, but there are a lot more people who want to see donald trump in court because of course, many people believe that the worst thing that donald trump dated during his entire presidency was in sight, a crowd for january the 6th. now he's not in charge and not being charged with incitement, but the charges that he pieces here all relate to what happened in january the 6th, and the attempt to overturn the will of the american people in the 2020 presidential election to stop the peaceful transition of power, which of course would be most people stocked, a bit of public in the 17 hundreds and all that. and of course obviously no defense has been long shared. we already have the environment, but trump's team. now happy this is all happening and washington so that's why there will be legal arguments that will be made at some point in the future. we may even hear a few of them in the court house today. but there is a suggestion from the trump team. is that the will put forward the idea that a west virginia would be a better location for donald trump? certainly it

., donald trump.ourth indictment _ donald trump. as you mentioned, the fourth indictment the - the fourth indictment the former president is facing and we sawjust former president is facing and we saw just recently a former president is facing and we sawjust recently a number of republican former lawmakers, formerjudge and attorney general, gathered together to agree with that push from jack smith they should be an expedited hearing. i thought that was fascinating - expedited hearing. i thought that was fascinating and - expedited hearing. i thought that was fascinating and it i that was fascinating and it shows that there is some sentiment among republicans, maybe not the republicans were closest elijah donald trump, the closest political allies, but individuals may be trying to give the best interests of the party long—term in mind, that they want to get this over quicker. they don't want this drawn out, they want to rip off the band—aid and if he is going to be tried and can be good, it's much bett

host: when a trump's lawyers -- one of trump's lawyers spoke to a reporter. caller: the fact that i am standing here for the third time -- [video clip] >> the fact that i am standing here for the third time in five months is not a committed test a coincidence. it is a deflection. from everything they have done and if you do not believe me, look at the facts. on march 17, hunter accidentally admitted it was his laptop from hell. the next day, alvin bragg indicted president trump. june 8, an fbi document is released showing the ukrainians paid the biden crime family millions of dollars. the next day, the mar-a-lago grade and indictment --raid and indictment. last week, hunter biden's sweetheart deal fell through when the judge realized he had blanket immunity. the following day, a superseding indictment against donald trump. july 31, devon archer goes to testify in front of the house. that was only after they failed to put him in jail prior to the fact. what happens the next day? the january 6 indictment that we are here for today. this is not a coincidence. th

so much of donald trump de-ends case? so much of donald trump depends on _ case?audience. - case? so much of donald trump depends on the audience. if- depends on the audience. if you're his supporter, that's on the first places they go to defend him. we can and cannot say and they'll be if you're a sceptic, you're going to think very differently differently on this and tromped, as we've seen them do is be hauled into a space and also hopes to activate a space. he doesn't have the go after moderate or independent voters in this whole process will vary legally oriented for trump, very serious jail time could happen for donald trump, it's also happening in a very political context is trying to maximise the politics of this to benefit him more than anyone else and i would caution those who were indicted with donald trump on this, loyalty is one way st with donald trump. we see people try to score points with donald trump he does not give points, takes them away one at a time that could happen in this trial too. anyone indicted with donald trump to be thrown under the

and trump won! trump won! trump won!ary 6, rally goers had started assembling. - and i can tell you to this day, donald trump won the election. [cheering] - they were so loud, that trump could hear them in the oval office that evening. [all cheering] trump opened the doors on this chilly january evening and started calling aides into his office. can you hear them outside, he'd ask. can you hear how excited they are? [cheering] - i woke up that morning and you know, there was a sense of real menace in washington, and there had been for a couple days. [all cheering] - there is a new republican party on the rise. we're coming for you, and we're going to have a good time doing it. - this is the greatest group of patriots ever put together. - what does giuliani do on january 6? - please welcome america's mayor, rudy. giuliani. - he takes the stage at the stop the steal rally on the ellipse. just south of the white house, you can see the white house in the distance, and he fires up this crowd. - this has been a year in which t

in trump's are worse.— trump's are worse. right. we are talkin: trump's are worse. right.on county jail tomorrow, no doubt. it would be nice if the republican candidates work to talk about some policy and how they approach russia, which is very pertinent at the moment, how they might approach the war in ukraine, what they think about bricks. i doubt will get any of that. i doubt will get rid of any of that too. the us political— will get rid of any of that too. tria: us political system is very different. i think you will see all of these candidates tonight try to break out by having some catchy phrase that's going to be played over and over again on social media. there is some subsidence stuff, i think it's important to raise to your audience in the uk and in the world how isolationist and in some cases hawkish this whole republican field. many of the republican challengers to trump want a complete head from the chinese economy, going in some cases even further than what president trump was saying. many support military action against drug cartels in mexico, whether it ha

and donald trump knows that. thing that's different about this one for donald trump is that he did not see this coming. he saw manhattan coming, he saw documents. this all his advisers were saying, don't worry about january 6th, that's not going to hit you. look where we find ourselves. >> juju: outwardly, a lot of anger? >> outwardly towards anybody. fire, fury, screaming, yelling. all of that -- "stupefied" is one somebody said to this, he could not believe this happened. >> juju: fascinating. john santucci, thank you. >> thank you. >> juju: >>> coming up, fallout. president trump's rivals for the nomination react. we'll speak with governor asa hutchinson. nks to skyrizi. ♪(uplifting music)♪ ♪nothing is everything♪ i'm celebrating my clearer skin... my way. with skyrizi, 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months. in another study, most people had 90% clearer skin, even at 5 years. and skyrizi is just 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infecti

again, some of those voters, blue-collar voters who switched from obama to trump, trump trump did surprisinglyell with minority voters, hispanics, blacks, asians have been shifting votes to republicans and trump. so i would be very cautious about saying he is completely flawed and he has no chance of winning. biden has plenty of laws, as we have been discussing. he is not popular. people are frustrated over inflation. so it's certainly conceivable that in a one-on-one race trump could beat biden if he just beats him in the swing states. adrian: julie, would you agree with that, if it came down to a rematch they would be incredibly close? julie: indeed, we're already seeing right now, i think this was mentioned earlier, polls show biden and trump neck-and-neck in a potential rematch. these are two candidates people know very well and are in the news constantly. so right now it is looking more even than i think many democrats would expect it to be, for example. if there are democrats pushing for a trump nomination think and it will be an easy win, they should think twice about that, because it i

was going to handle trump. what happens when you come for us. we return the energy." welcome back to democracy now! if you could talk about the significance of what has taken place in york, in your city, in the capital atlanta. >> thank you for having me. i do think this is a great step forward for voters of georgia that fundamentally at the court of this, voters were being disenfranchise. there was an attempt to disenfranchise voters in the state of georgia and i think what is really interesting and the story is part of what has brought this about is voters, what i call democracy defenders, having the courage to actually call this to account and called trump and his cronies into account. what was catalytic in this investigation was the voters who let in coffee county that said something is wrong with his count. the cat initially came up 50 votes off and then there was another vote and they said, no, no, something is wrong with the machine. there were voters literally making sure their votes were counted and ma

so this is something we have seen from trump and heard from trump. all the big lie, which is not even a new, lie it's an old lie, donald trump just kept pulling it out and dusting it off and using it for his own ends, it was always to make it harder for black and brown people to vote in people in indian country because they were predictably democratic voters. and so if you didn't have the numbers the way you could get them, make it harder for the brown folks in the black votes to vote. >> 92% of black voters in the 2020 election voted for joe biden. that's a political reality that trump was aware of, but also the trump project is settled on white grievance, which doesn't lee leave much to people of color. it's a snake eating its own tale, to some degree. i wonder if there's something, if this can be talked about explicitly. i think it's in there as a statute, and is generally depriving people of rights, generally depriving them of having their votes counted, but because of the history with this law, because of the reality of what trump is doing and t

it's trump and pence.nd you have the vice president knowing he lost, saying there's got to be a peaceful transfer of power. so you have an example just in his person of someone who was doing what you're supposed to do and you have an example of someone who's not. that is going to speak volumes in terms of him just being there and setting the example for how you are supposed to behave. >> unlike mark meadows and other brig witnesses in this case, mike pence was in the capital on january 6th and they were chanting that they wanted to kill him. the drama associated with his testimony it's gonna be something. organist weighs in a quick break right here. we'll keep all of our guests in place. we'll be back with more right after this break. after this break i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger. i brought in ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy i

trump's absence, it is going to be felt. i think about trump and fox like a rubber band.rd as one side pulls and sometimes trump is pulling away, sometimes fox is pulling away, rupert murdoch said we are making trump a non-person. but he just feels he can't because ultimately he's not a leader, he's a follower. so they pull apart like a rubber band but yet always snap back together. rubber bands, they can break. someday this relationship will break, but i don't see any evidence of that right now. i think there's so much tension, yes, fox's profits caused it to snap. >> we know from the dominion filing they'll take almost a billion dollar knee in the name of preserving the trump audience. i do wonder if you think there's anything about the debate that causes fear to ring out in the heart of donald trump or at least trepidation. is it debating chris christie? is it confronting mike pence, the man who understood his plot to overturn the election? what do you think strikes fear in his heart? >> i think it's youth, vitality, the energy of some of these other candidates. there'

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trump very well, mary trump.onald trump's niece and the author and host of the donald trump podcast. i'm so eager to get your thoughts on the man -- your uncle you know well. the first is i kind of wonder as we talk about the booking process and potential mug shots and fingerprints and kind of marching through jail like every other defendant, what you think of this idea that chris christie floated a couple weeks ago. he says he knows trump really well and no matter how he's been bragging and going on about not being afraid, he goes to bed every night thinking about sound of that jail cell door closing behind him. do you think that deep down inside this is weighing on him in the middle of the night, for example? >> yeah, and first of all, thank you so much for having me. it's great to be here. i don't think that it's as conscious as chris christie seems to think because there's so many reasons for donald not to believe this is happening, first of all. and secondly, probably the worst thing he can feel is humiliati

of donald trump. fani willis's indictment is the indictment that made donald trump shut up. and so on monday we will not be hearing donald trump's defense to the rico charge he is facing in georgia. we will not hear donald trump's defense to his famous phone call on january 2nd of 2021 to georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger. >> all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. >> that phone call got donald trump indicted for solicitation of violation of oath by a public officer. if it sounded criminal to you the first time you heard donald trump asking for those 11,000 votes, it sounded criminal to district attorney willis, as well. now donald trump is indicted for that request that the secretary of state violate his oath and commit a crime for donald trump. but donald trump is also indicted on another count for that same phone call. that is the crime of making false statements to government officials in georgia, which the indictment says was, quote,

. >> the trump situation. >> trump employee. >> trump. >> trump. >> trump. >> trump's actions. >> trump's party. and that's donald trump. >> donald trump, all of donald trump's lies. >> donald trump. >> donald trump, donald trump. >> donald trumpism. >> i'm donald trump. >> trump had the big crowd in iowa, trump demanded. >> donald trump is suggesting. >> trump was impeached. >> trump was not chase ended by his first impeachment. >> working towards expunged donald trump's impeachment. >> that's former president trump. >> trump. >> more president trump. >> looming indictments of donald trump and trumps. >> the trump world. >> but if donald trump is going to call for it. >> we know that trump has been a loser. >> trump's going to put on this pressure. >> pump wants the expungement of his features. >> trump. >> donald trump. >> donald trump. >> donald trump still the commanding lead. >> sean: pretty amazing. so, by the way, i don't dislike liberal joe or moving joe, don't you think over there, over at the conspiracy channel where they lied to you for three years about trump, russia collusion

trump.s indictment itself is 98 pages long and includes the 41 counts faced by mr. trump and 18 others. mr. trump himself is facing 13 of those 41 charges including forgery and racketeering. the document also contains evidence, such as mr. trump's tweets, and details to an infamous phone call to the georgia secretary of state asking him to find votes to overturn the election. the 18 others indicted include people close to mr. trump in 2020. among them former lawyer rudy giuliani, seen on the left, with chief of staff mark meadows on the right. also former lawyer john eastman and a former justice department official, jeffrey clark, who you also see on the right. let's discuss all of this with my panel now, a former federal prosecutor, law professor at the university of minnesota, and the former communications director of the republican national committee. gentlemen, great to see all of you. what we saw in this georgia indictment is fanni willis saying the former president was at the helm of a

trump. i'm laura coats. >> i'm wolf blitzer. this has been a day unlike anything we have ever seen in our history. the 45th president of the united states arrested and arraigned in a courtroom just a stone's throw from the u.s. capitol. where the plot to overturn the election exploded into deadly violence. >> it's an extraordinary moment. it really is. a day of extraordinary moments. donald j. trump arriving in washingt dto be indicted on four federal charges related to special council jack smith's investigation into attempts to overturn the election. the former president standing up in court and pleading not guilty to all four charges. in spite of everything laid out, kevin mccarthy who was at the capitol on january 6th, well he is arguing trump is being prosecuted unfairly. >> i have the honor and the privilege to serve in congress. the building sits across from the supreme court. there is lady justice. she has a scale and a blindfold on. that is the way justice in america is supposed to p

trump won! trump won!arted assembling. >> i can tell you to this day, donald trump won the election! [ cheering ] >> they were so loud that trump could hear them in the oval office that evening. trump opened the doors on this chilly january evening and started calling aides into his office. can you hear them outside, he'd ask? can you hear how excited they are? >> i woke up that morning and, you know, there was the soun d giuliani. - he takes the stage at the stop the steal rally on the ellipse. just south of the white house, you can see the white house in the distance, and he fires up this crowd. - this has been a year in which they have invaded our freedom of speech, our freedom of religion, our freedom to move, our freedom to live. i'll be darned if they're going to take away our free and fair vote! and we're going to fight to the very end to make sure that doesn't happen. over the next 10 days, we get to see the machines that are crooked, the ballots that are fraudulent, and if we're wrong, we will be

trump won! trump won! trump won!ald trump won the election! >> they were so loud that trump could hear them in the oval office that evening. >> greatest nation on earth -- >> trump opened the doors on this chilly january evening and started calling aides into his office. "can you hear them outside?" he'd ask. "can you hear how excited they are?" >> i woke up that morning, and, you know, there was a sense of real menace in washington and there had been for a couple days. >> there is a new republican party on the rise. >> we're coming for you and we're gonna have a good time doing it. this is the greatest group of patriots ever put together. >> what does giuliani do on january 6th? >> please welcome america's mayor, rudy giuliani. >> he takes the stage at the stop the steal rally on the ellipse just south of the white house. you can see the white house in the distance. and he fires up this crowd. >> this has been a year in which they have invaded our freedom of speech, our freedom of religion, our freedom to move, our

it is the party of trump. and so i think pence finds himself consistently walking a fine line here between standing up for himself, which i think he should be more aggressive about, telling the truth about what happened, since he lived it, and he is a key witness in this case. he lived it firsthand. i think the thing is here, trump knows this. pence is the one person who can really take him down. because he's lived it. not only has he lived the january 6th and the lead up to it, and everything that happened when it came to this particular case, but he's also lived all four years of that administration. he knows the g.o.a.t., the fat, and the ugly. he saw the g.o.a.t., the bad, and the ugly. and i think trump is actually will arit. for pence, i think he should stop waffling. i think what he does that, he makes himself look weak. i know he's lost a lot of confidence from other republicans who want him to take a stand, or moderate voters, even across the american people, people wonder why. the truth is on his sid

republicans are going to defend trump. democrats are going to use them against trump.is just the way of the. what jack smith and his team in the department of justice have to do is proceed without regard, without fear or favor with respect to trump's presidential campaign and just proceed as they would in any other case, and that is what i believe they are doing. adrian: adolfo, what do you make of what you heard, that these charges are absolutely not politically motivated? guest: alright, first of all, independent judiciary, i was talking about prosecutors. they have discretion. they are political individuals. the professor should note that everyone of these has been either a democrat appointee or an elected democrat that is bringing these prosecutions. this indictment is absolutely ridiculous on its face. it is the january 6 report with some permissions. i will tell you that important omissions that were made. guest: we have an independent judiciary in this country. guest: rina, let me finish. adrian: hang on. guest: you are trying to discredit what i said about an i

trump. he lost 22. he put out these election denying candidates. alina haboob and trump are not unique. he found people to espouse these ideas who ran for office on this platform of election denial and democracy denial. they lost in arizona, they lost in wisconsin, they lost in michigan, they were wiped out across the country. there is a super majority of americans and cnn's two new poll today, 61% say yes. there is reality, we are living on planet earth, president biden won the election. now, you have another segment of the population, 69% of republicans who say no. biden is not the legitimate president and there it is a combination of multiple factors that have made themselves up double, including the unique salesmanship. paul and i were talking in the green room, trump is able to channel the resentment, the organic, natural, he speaks to those people. it is a lot of dislocations over many, many decades. he channels that resentment and now he is channeled it into this assault on the founda

donald trump did it. for a lot of the reasons the caller mentions and some of trump's distancing himself from his handiwork on roe and dobbs, some challengers see an opening in that will be critical if you are going to make roads in a place like iowa or south carolina, pivotal early states in the republican nominating calendar. you will need those voters if you are able to be competitive with the former president. host: the former president is leading all of the polls for the republican primary. we had a caller earlier this week that said the rally last weekend -- it was not the crowd they talked about, it was not his big as former rallies. outside of the polls about the horse race, where do you see potential weaknesses in donald trump support that he did not have an 2020 or 2016? guest: if you break down some of the polling numbers and look at the focus groups of republican primary voters, including by various campaigns, trump has wide support but some of the support is soft. the people running against t

and after a third donald trump term he would not install donald trump junior as president for life of the united states? it seems like a joke, doesn't it? but we have seen democracy slide this way before. we have seen strongmen, including some of donald trump's favorite world leaders, get reelected with 99% of the vote. we have seen what happens to a republic without checks and balances. ladies and gentlemen, today we are saying donald trump be checked. we are seeing his attempted coup be rebalanced by a department of justice that for the first time in our nation's has indicted a president for attempting to invalidate an election. i would be remiss if i did not say as a black american that it is not lost on me that donald trump is being arraigned today under the very same statutes used to prosecute the kkk. the very same. to reverse a man attempts to disenfranchise voters. the very same the doj used to put the plan under the ground -- the kkk underground being used by a former president that targeted atlanta, detroit, and milwaukee. they went to wear black voters voted and tried to ha

they're off of trump. you're a pat of -- part of a polite society. >> willie, not really good with geography. >> oh, no. >> is south jmpb ampton now called the suburbs of -- >> no. >> are you and willie, is donny easthampton now? >> so many of them. >> bridgehampton. joe, when are you and mika coming out? >> i'm not a hamptons guy. >> you want to go. >> if you want to get barnicle out and some others, we'll have one of your clambakes. >> we'll make it happen. >> there you go. >> i was talking about the north shore of long island. >> mike, you stay right where you are. and donny we'll see you back in our fourth hour for another edition -- >> he'll helicopter out to easthampton. >> he is. >> have a late breakfast. i have a mimosa. he'll helicopter back. >> that's how long our show is. think about it. >>> still ahead on "morning joe" some conservative pundits are criticizing president biden's visit to hawaii. but the reaction from maui residents appears to be much different. we'll get to that story. >>> plus,

that is classic trump rhetoric. and he's also speaking to what we have seen, the reality of this situation, that with each new indictment, his poll numbers have continued to go up. in fact, according to a recent poll, 71% of gop voters don't think that he broke any law. his lead now 37 points over his nearest rival, ron desantis. just think about that. that is a staggering number. what have we seen from his gop rivals? well, look, some of them are making their entire campaigns about trump. you have chris christie, asa hutchinson, who you're going to be talking to, will hurd, who have sharpened their attacks against the former president. notably, we saw his former vice president, mike pence, really change his tone. yesterday saying that anyone who violates the constitution should not be in the oval office. that's really some of the strongest rhetoric we have seen from the former vice president. and of course, he is mentioned frequently in this indictment, which lays out in great detail the ways in which former presid

your conservatives talk about god put donald trump in office, i tell you what, god took donald trump out of office because that was the safe and secure election. he lost. he cannot take it. he could not take it. i will say one thing about these conservatives, if i asked them, is that hair on top of donald trump's head real and they say yes, the you know they're going to continue to go with donald trump. host: from the washington times, the headline, trump the defense team cast january 6 indictment as an attack on free speech writing the former president's lawyers are framing the new indictment as an unprecedented battle over free speech that federal prosecutors cannot when. want of the lawyers on trumps defense team is hammering home the message that this is the quote first time the first amendment has been criminalized. he wanted president by this justice department will make it quote criminal to state your position and engage in political activity. it is, speech for this reason, what the president saw in 2020 was all these irregularities going on, affidavits, sworn testimony, examp

>> trump.se lawyers such as pat cipollone were very worried. >> mr. pat cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we do not go up to the capitol, cassidy. please keep in touch with me. we are going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> fight for trump! >> but nobody could change trump's mine. and as he, family, and aides arrived at the rally, his chief of staff mark meadows with keeping the president hopes alive. >> prior to mr. trump taking the stage that morning, he was under the impression by mr. meadows that it was still possible. >> at the rally, the president had a more immediate, familiar concern. crowd size. >> when we were in the offstage, announced area tent behind the stage, he was very concerned about the shot. >> for the pictures that were shared, he wanted to make sure that the rally space was full. and so he is being told it is not that people are waiting to get through these mags, through these metal detectors. people do

they don't fear donald trump. they hate donald trump. let me say that again, kevin mccarthy, these other republicans, they don't fear him. they hate him. they fear his supporters. they fear his supporters will turn the channel to another network. they fear his supporters will vote for another republican. >> that's a toxic relationship. >> they fear that. we see and hear republicans, listen, i'm a conservative. i voted for trump. i wanted him to win. i love the constitution more than i love donald trump. i will not lie for this guy. i will not betray my country for donald trump. and so, again, that's what's so disappointing with some of these people we see who spent from november the 4th to january the 6th undermining american democracy, turning a mob against the united states capitol and against congress. and now the same people on tv and in congress that are doing everything they can to turn americans against the system of justice that sustained this great republic for over 240 years. chuck, can you give me a time line? we understand th

the problem is that donald trump is their future. donald trump is their past and they're present. he operates like a cult leader. they operate like cult followers, except for chris christie and mike pence, depending on what day it is. >> it all goes through trump. now, trump just posted on truth social that he plans to surrender, turn himself in on thursday. that's a little news that just broke this evening. there are many ways the moderators can ask a question on wednesday night about his legal issues, about the indictments. they indicated they are going to in some capacity, we will see. i know you are not advising fox, but what do you hope they ask? >> well, again, i would ask whether they have any platform for the real issues facing the country. before the dobbs decision, all i heard from republicans in the house was that abortion was murder, and it was a genocide, and it should be a crime. they all signed up to make it a federal crime, then after dobbs and after the good people of kansas, and a bunch of other states have completely repudiated their right wing extremism against

>> later, trump verses his veep. mike pence doubling down amid their growing clash. >> sadly, the president was surrounded by a group of crackpot lawyers that kept telling him what his itching ears wanted to hear. ultimately, continued to demand that i choose him over the constitution. >> good morning. thank you for being with us, it's 10:00 eastern in our nation's capital. i'm ana cabrera along with jose diaz-balart for this special coverage of the third arraignment of donald trump. >> here in washington, d.c., a growing sense of anticipation ahead of the former president's appearance at 4:00 p.m. eastern. lines started building outside the courthouse overnight. take a look at these pictures. the morning, however, the intense security continues. barricades outside the court. officers with long guns on the grounds. >> we expect the former president to travel here from bedminster, new jersey, in just a few hours. we know he'll be fingerprinted and go before the judge. garrett haake is outside that d.c. courthouse. das

ewen into the mind of donald trump? seven ears of into the mind of donald trump?d trump? seven years of hearing those _ into the mind of donald trump? seven years of hearing those words - - years of hearing those words — corrupt, rich, witchhunt — my god, wejust corrupt, rich, witchhunt — my god, we just cannot escape hearing the same message over and over. it feels like groundhog day. the republican party would be so much better off without donald trump. its leaders at the highest levels know that. but what can they do? they can't hold back somebody that's been told by many republican voters and flyover states and our midwestern states, and places and parts of america that feel that they've been forgotten. those people say this is a man with a powerful personality and who's actually been fun, they've called him. i think actually been fun, they've called him. ithink it actually been fun, they've called him. i think it is certainly a crisis for the republican party to see donald trump continue to pull well, but i would caution against looking at the polls right now

donald trump is a good job talking about donald trump.t to talk about you, the voters struggling to find a job, struggling to grow your business, that's where you want to go. align yourself and draw that direct connection of relatability with the hopes, dreams, and aspirations, and in many cases the fears of voters. >> it's tricky though, all these legal issues hanging over trump are part of his baggage. would you'd be advising them not to talk about the legal issues. and to pivot more to let voters care about? >> the reason it's a mistake not to talk about those issues is because you ultimately have to make the case, every candidate to make the case, on the best person for the job. and here's why the other people aren't. donald trump potentially creating a problem for the republican party in a general law election against joe biden and the democrats. that's the reason why he's not the right candidate. that's what i'd be saying if our one of these candidates. i'd be making the case. i'll be able to beat joe biden. donald trump won't be ab

trump. as a trump employee working at mar-a-lago, no matter how much you were shipped or feared donald trump when you watched him get arrested that day by jack smith, something should have happened to your confidence in donald trump's ability to protect you. the superseding indictment that jack smith filed on thursday, adding more criminal charges against donald trump, for his attempts to destroy evidence in the case tells the story of two trump employees who made two very different decisions. -- in dealing with jack smith. yuscil taveras, who is identified and that superseding indictment only asked trump employee 4, clearly made the decision to cooperate with jack smith after watching his coworker, walt nauta, become a codefendant with donald trump. and carlos de oliveira -- he apparently decided not to cooperate with jackson. and ended up being added to the indictment as a codefendant on thursday. carlos de oliveira's life changed for the worth a year and a half ago when he was promoted fr

trump will see that. trump will get anxious about that. he won't be able to skip, if not the next debate, then certainly the third debate. he's not going -- he's incapable, i think, in his constitution of allowing other candidates to grab the limelight. i wouldn't set sights so high for this pre-taped interview with tucker carlson. tucker carlson's stuff online has not done especially well. this was a canned interview. it's not live. i think when people hear that, it makes it less interesting, less compelling, less of a must watch. so i think the real moment to be watching for on wednesday is who is able to emerge as the person whom trump is going to be worried about because they had a good night? >> and what's the fox contingency plan? i mean, i guess they're still planning just in case he changes his mind again to show up. >> well, he doesn't have that luxury like he did in iowa in 2016 because of the rnc rules require you, as a participating debate, someone participating in the debate to have agreed 48 hours beforehand to sign a series

trump.bout donald trump. one man turned up in an orangejumpsuit with about donald trump. one man turned up in an orange jumpsuit with a donald trump mask in handcuffs. we don't expect to see him in handcuffs, by the way. two men walked past and said what about president biden, what about his son? they should be locked up as well. we're seeing those polarisations already on the eve of his arraignment.— already on the eve of his arraignment. already on the eve of his arraiunment. ~ . .., ,, already on the eve of his arraiunment. ~ . u, ,, , arraignment. what can you tell us about the judge — arraignment. what can you tell us about the judge in _ arraignment. what can you tell us about the judge in this _ arraignment. what can you tell us about the judge in this case? - arraignment. what can you tell us about the judge in this case? so, | about the 'udge in this case? so, the 'udue about the judge in this case? so, the judge - _ about the judge in this case? ’srr, the judge — this is really abo

trump. i'm erin burnett in new york. >> and i'm laura coates in washington, d.c.. this indictment is like nothing we've ever actually seen before in history of this entire country. and looking at it in black and white is absolutely extraordinary. it begins with this, everyone. quote, the defendant, donald j trump, was the 45th president of the united states, and a candidate for reelection in 2020. the defendant lost the 2020 presidential election. and as you say, laura, it begins that way with those simple words, he lost. that is a fact. but of course the person who had sworn to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution, instead tonight is accused in this 45-page indictment of trying to overthrow america's free and fair elections in an attempt to stay in power. it has been 1001 days since the 2021 election exactly. it has been -- day since the very sixth attack on the capital. it is now, though, and only now that donald trump has been indicted on four criminal counts, conspiracy to defr

trump. >> you never go full trump. they blame it on the democrats. willie, you're not going to believe this. they say joe biden is old. >> hmm. >> so you have all of this going on, and then you have lindsey graham who is a lawyer saying, "i don't trust juries now." >> huh. >> here, you have people who said, "we don't trust american democracy after donald trump loses," and now fox, some of the people on fox news, lindsey graham, some republicans are now saying, "we don't trust the jury system. we don't trust american democracy because trump lost. we don't trust the jury system because donald trump stole nuclear secrets and is being held to account for it. donald trump tried to steal an election." they all know he tried to steal it. lindsey graham said, "i'm off this train." then the three people and the hound dog chased him around washington national reagan airport, and he said, "okay, well, i'm back on the train." it's so bizarre, man. it's so bizarre. they're willing to trash every american institution for a guy that'

so, the trump playbook is the trump playbook.ng about him, of course, is because the republican party has decided to continue to embrace him. i'm glad you showed that moment from the debate. i know people are talking about, oh, while they had an interesting policy back and forth. but the truth is everything that was really important was contained in that moment. when six of those eight candidates said they would vote again for a guy who they are supposedly running against. even if he was a convicted felon. >> brian, your thoughts on this. the moment of the picture, the mugshot, juxtaposed with the reality that the republicans are still behind this guy, even if he's convicted. >> his mugshot was his i am your retribution face. that's what he told the cpac audience in march. i am your retribution. that's what he's promising in a return. that's with the image was all about. he's somehow trying to celebrate this image, and his most -- he's claiming he looks strong, when in fact, this is the weakest possible image. there's so many lie

he knows trump so well. i think that's why that moment there at the end, where he did acknowledge that he does believe trump knew he lost an election was notable. i wasn't sure what he would say about the argument that trump attorneys are making, this is free speech, he was just exercising free speech, and they can't move forward. he completely eviscerated that and poked holes in it, and that's not why he's being i indicted here. he also went after the other defense we've heard, that trump was acting on the advice of counsel, particularly john eastman, the attorney general who basically came up with the blueprint for a coup. bill barr said, a, he didn't think that john eastman would giving what was qualified as advice, but also he doesn't think it would work, because it would required trump to take the stand, be cross-examined, and he didn't believe trump would essentially remember his own version of events. he was incredibly blunt. it was a nearly 40-minute interview where he went through all the steps, wit

former trump aide.ho was not associated with trump during the january six committee hearings so under the council of a new lawyer, she was much more forthcoming with her testimony. her initial attorney, stephen passantino, reportedly advice to, quote the less you remember, the better. end quote. all of this underscores that attorneys paid for by trump world are ultimately beholden to donald trump. once impartial attorneys come into play, a, pattern seems to emerge. former trump associates don't hesitate to implicate their former boss. in a moment, i'm joined by two brilliant lawyers who will help us understand the stakes here and what likely comes next. the former prosecutor, catherine christian, and msnbc legal analyst, lisa reuben, are standing by to make us smarter, right after the break. after the break. ...to not only enhance the fan experience, but to advance how the game is played. now's the time to see what america's largest 5g network can do for your business. and we're done. hm, what about the

if you do pull back and it is biden trump, are you voting for biden or trump? fred: i don't want to say. ask me at another time. host: when we are talking about middle ground and the rationale for why you support no labels, what is the middle ground on the topic of abortion, climate change, civil rights? fred: we have to deal with it. we saw real gridlock in the last couple of weeks in the house. one of the things we've been pushing for you need to pass a budget every year. the early part of this year, the freedom caucus demanded they would take up 12 separate appropriation bills in the house. here we are, it is september and congress passed one of the house. they passed none of the senate. they did not do a budget resolution in the house. we are going to be three weeks away before the end of the year. not only do we have -- they said they are not doing a continuing resolution. they are going to have an automatic sequester on top of that. you've got the faa reauthorization. you have normal things, talking about an impeachment inquiry for cabinet members and the

donald trump said he dead.ot days later he posted something to this hold -- certainly sounded like it violated the georgia state law prohibiting influencing witnesses. he said, i know lieutenant governor, former lieutenant governor jeff duncan's gun appear before the grand jury. quote, he shouldn't. he should not testify. he told the witness not to testify. it violates georgia state law. but importantly, it violated his most important condition of release. i can't wait until judge chutkan takes this on on the 28th. and here is my concern of donald trump isn't held into account for violating the most important condition of his release. what kind of signal does that send about the trustworthiness of the criminal justice system? >> let's talk big picture here. looking into 2024. michael luttig, judge michael luttig, a friend of the show along with lawrence tribe were on ali velshi show this weekend. they were discussing a recent piece they wrote, a lot of us have seen a caught people's attention in the atlantic ti